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BE108000-08-CM Belkin Surge Protector, $20,99 with potential additional 15% off and potential free shipping orders over $50. Online $17.84

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BE108000-08-CM

8-Outlet Commercial Surge Protector 8' Cord

AC Plug Style
Right Angle

AC RATING
15A/125V/1875

Circuit Total Joules
2500J

Clamping Voltage
330V

EMI/RFI Noise Filter
150K Hz ~100M Hz, up to 58dB

Max. Spike Voltage
6000V

Total Number of Outlets
8
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This surge protector claim to fame is that it has 330V Clamping, 2500 Joules, and is name brand. I could not find if it is UL Certified. The 330V clamping is not always found on surge protectors in this price range. This is cheaper than Amazon, $28.94, cheaper than Newegg, 24.99 and cheaper than Walmart, $26.99. I ordered 3 of these so I got the free shipping. I did not use the 15% coupon, found out about it after I ordered. Did use a 10% off coupon that did not require email sign up.

https://www.belkin.com/8-outlet-c...INK_225196
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Created 05-08-2024 at 07:44 AM by spuddaddy
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insertfootmouth
05-08-2024 at 09:25 AM.
05-08-2024 at 09:25 AM.
Thanks for posting. But I can't find anywhere that advertises the response time.

The response I got from chat support was

"I apologize but We don't have visibility regarding with the information .

What We can only provide is https://www.belkin.com/8-outlet-c...0-08.html"

I don't believe that's a good sign that this device will kick in quickly.
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spuddaddy
05-08-2024 at 10:19 AM.
05-08-2024 at 10:19 AM.
Quote from insertfootmouth :
Thanks for posting. But I can't find anywhere that advertises the response time.

The response I got from chat support was

"I apologize but We don't have visibility regarding with the information .

What We can only provide is https://www.belkin.com/8-outlet-c...0-08.html"

I don't believe that's a good sign that this device will kick in quickly.
The clamping value represents the response time. 330V is considered excellent. You got an agent who did not know what they were talking about. My understanding is the lower the voltage the quicker the surge protector kicks in.
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kilimar
05-08-2024 at 12:42 PM.
05-08-2024 at 12:42 PM.
99.9% of the time, the published response time for surge protection is marketing and not real system response time. They say things like "instantaneous" or "< 1 ns" which is at the component level. Meaning that typical MOV material response time is 500 picoseconds (depends on the materials used in the MOV), so they advertise < 1ns or instant, but when the MOV material is made into a MOV component with leads and such, it adds times. And then when the MOV component is integrated into a complete system (surge protection device), it adds more time and the response time goes up to ~15 ns - 50 ns.

Unfortunate, I don't know of ANY company that publishes response time for the "system" -- even companies, like APC/Schneider that writes white papers on the above topic, don't publish them in their own specs ....

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kilimar
05-08-2024 at 12:58 PM.
05-08-2024 at 12:58 PM.
@spuddaddy It is UL certified. Although the Certification data doesn't match the specifications on the website. I found two listings based on the model number on the Belkin product page. One by Belkin (cert# E152555) and another by Powertech (cert #E115193). Powertech OEMs the product and rebrands it to other companies like Belkin. But here the clamping is 400 (L-N) / 500 (L-G & N-G) V not 300V. Sorry, the tables didn't translate. I fiddle with the cut & paste but the results is still not pretty.

Belkin
Model(s): BE112230-08(!), BE112231-08(!), BE112234-08(!), BE112234-10(!), AS21200-08(!), BE108000-08-CM(!), SSC-12O36J-CA(!), SRA009p12tt8(!)
Mode // VPR (Vpk) // MCOV (V) // In (kA) // SCCR (kA)
L-N // 400 // 127 // 3 // -
L-G // 500 // 127
N-G // 500 // 127
Evaluated to: UL 1449 5th Ed. Rev: 2022-12-15 and CSA C22.2 No. 269.3-17, 2017-02

Powertech
Model(s): BE112230-08+, BE112234-10+, BE108000-08-CM+
Mode // VPR (Vpk) // MCOV (V) // In (kA) // SCCR (kA)
L-N // 400 // 127 // 3 // -
L-G // 500 // 127
N-G // 500 // 127
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kilimar
05-08-2024 at 01:07 PM.
05-08-2024 at 01:07 PM.
Just out of curiosity ... I did a search on the Belkin website for two of the other models listed in the UL report. They were BE112230 and SRA009p12tt8 and found the clamping voltages to match between the Belkin product page and the UL report.
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insertfootmouth
05-08-2024 at 01:29 PM.
05-08-2024 at 01:29 PM.
Quote from kilimar :
99.9% of the time, the published response time for surge protection is marketing and not real system response time. They say things like "instantaneous" or "< 1 ns" which is at the component level. Meaning that typical MOV material response time is 500 picoseconds (depends on the materials used in the MOV), so they advertise < 1ns or instant, but when the MOV material is made into a MOV component with leads and such, it adds times. And then when the MOV component is integrated into a complete system (surge protection device), it adds more time and the response time goes up to ~15 ns - 50 ns.

Unfortunate, I don't know of ANY company that publishes response time for the "system" -- even companies, like APC/Schneider that writes white papers on the above topic, don't publish them in their own specs ....
1. So all you can do is assume that you get what you pay for? Lower priced items have higher response times? How else could one determine which products have better quality components and design?

2. So is that 15-50ns range representative of the worst and best case scenario response time for products currently on the market? How much more protection does one get from a 15ns response time surge protector vs a 50ns one? In other words, does it matter?
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05-08-2024 at 02:39 PM.
05-08-2024 at 02:39 PM.
Quote from insertfootmouth :
1. So all you can do is assume that you get what you pay for? Lower priced items have higher response times? How else could one determine which products have better quality components and design?

2. So is that 15-50ns range representative of the worst and best case scenario response time for products currently on the market? How much more protection does one get from a 15ns response time surge protector vs a 50ns one? In other words, does it matter?
Basically get one with better clamping voltage from a reputable brand and call it a day. Like this unit.
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BlueBanana1834
05-15-2024 at 04:50 AM.
05-15-2024 at 04:50 AM.
Berlin surge protectors are the best. I used to live in FL (aka storm central) and the units similar to this one, but with more outlets, saved my bacon quite a few times over.
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