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Product Name: | Lutron Caseta Deluxe Smart Dimmer Switch (2 Count) Kit with Caseta Smart Hub | Works with Alexa, Apple Home, Ring, Google Assistant | P-BDG-PKG2W-A | White |
Manufacturer: | Lutron |
Model Number: | P-BDG-PKG2W-A |
Product SKU: | B01M3XJUAD |
UPC: | 784276221528 |
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TL;DR: You are paying a premium for genuine quality, ease of install and use, minimal delays when using with Siri/Alexa/Google assistant.
Learn from my architectural mistake of wanting to go hubless when I got started.
I didn't want to have a mass of hubs connected to my router and I mistakenly thought that going purely WiFi would be better.
It's. Not.
Roughly 20 Wemo devices and 12 Lifx bulbs later I understand why I should've just saved up my money and grabbed Lutron devices when they came down to this price (I still haven't converted yet).
I'm one of the few lucky ones that don't have too many MAJOR issues with my Wemo switches, dimmers and smart plugs but they are notoriously flaky to many and, I work in IT so my tolerance and understanding is different. I went LIFX smart bulb wise becase they were (and still are?) the best when it came to color accuracy. LIFX is now owned by Feit so...take that however you want.
The biggest lessons I've learned regarding smart lighting is:
1. It's better to have a smart switch/outlet than a smart bulb if you don't care about millions of colors and
2. Hubless isn't as great as promised. Even now that Apple have made Homepods and AppleTVs auto-magic hubs, the response times can still be slow and flaky. Also, as already mentioned, these don't require an internet connection and communicate on their own wireless protocol. So, the more devices you get, the less you have to worry about your wifi traffic being affected.
3. Lutron does one thing: Lighting. So, their products are rock solid and they are built with decades of purist lighting experience in mind.
Hope that helps. All the best!
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**Nvm I thought the second light bulb button could work for another set of lights lol.
TL;DR: You are paying a premium for genuine quality, ease of install and use, minimal delays when using with Siri/Alexa/Google assistant.
Learn from my architectural mistake of wanting to go hubless when I got started.
I didn't want to have a mass of hubs connected to my router and I mistakenly thought that going purely WiFi would be better.
It's. Not.
Roughly 20 Wemo devices and 12 Lifx bulbs later I understand why I should've just saved up my money and grabbed Lutron devices when they came down to this price (I still haven't converted yet).
I'm one of the few lucky ones that don't have too many MAJOR issues with my Wemo switches, dimmers and smart plugs but they are notoriously flaky to many and, I work in IT so my tolerance and understanding is different. I went LIFX smart bulb wise becase they were (and still are?) the best when it came to color accuracy. LIFX is now owned by Feit so...take that however you want.
The biggest lessons I've learned regarding smart lighting is:
1. It's better to have a smart switch/outlet than a smart bulb if you don't care about millions of colors and
2. Hubless isn't as great as promised. Even now that Apple have made Homepods and AppleTVs auto-magic hubs, the response times can still be slow and flaky. Also, as already mentioned, these don't require an internet connection and communicate on their own wireless protocol. So, the more devices you get, the less you have to worry about your wifi traffic being affected.
3. Lutron does one thing: Lighting. So, their products are rock solid and they are built with decades of purist lighting experience in mind.
Hope that helps. All the best!
I rent so there's only so much I can do about this, but I could use (1) smart bulbs, and (2) most importantly smart plugs (my wife has lots of led lights for growing plants that could use some automation). Do you have a brand / ecosystem / type / protocol that you'd recommend? I'm totally new here.
Thanks!
You'll definitely need to look at how your house is set up, but most likely you will need to leave all switches in the "on" position all the time to keep the circuit complete. Then use the lutron to control it. Potentially you can use two pico remotes and place them where the other switches are and use those rather than the physical switches.
I rent so there's only so much I can do about this, but I could use (1) smart bulbs, and (2) most importantly smart plugs (my wife has lots of led lights for growing plants that could use some automation). Do you have a brand / ecosystem / type / protocol that you'd recommend? I'm totally new here.
Lutron actually has some smart plugs and dimmers.
I would go with Hue for bulbs. Very pricey, but well made and nearly as responsive as Lutron. They also use a hub so they don't clog your WiFi network
But MAN do you pay for them - especially compared to something like Select Blinds.
I went through and priced out my home (≈27 windows) and at an average price of around $600 per shade (some more, some less), that's over $16k for my home. Even if I just used the ones I really wanted automated, and put their non-motorized ones elsewhere, I'd still be looking at ≈$10k. Plus, they don't offer solar charging, so that means changing batteries, having an electric cord to each window, or having an electrician run power to each window.
That's... a lot for me. Even during their 20% off sales.
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I rent so there's only so much I can do about this, but I could use (1) smart bulbs, and (2) most importantly smart plugs (my wife has lots of led lights for growing plants that could use some automation). Do you have a brand / ecosystem / type / protocol that you'd recommend? I'm totally new here.
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That deal doesn't come with a hub so it's not 'SMART' until you do (I don't think) but you can use the Pico remote with it. Here's a setup video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlv1OWS
I'm farily certain you can get one on Ebay or, even in this thread there's a SlickDealer who has 3 of em now because they couldn't resist too many Slickdeals. LOL. They might sell one to ya cheap.
Sooo...you could get a few of those for now and then, when a hub or a deal with one that comes up, you can grab that and the add the automations.
Smart bulb wise if you are in an apartment then you probably won't have many lights to install so the 2.4ghz flooding might not be a big deal to you. I'm still a Lifx fan for color accuracy but there are lots of options out there. Can't really be of help there as I'm not a Philips Hue fan personally and there have been lots of new entrants into the smart bulb arena. Plenty of great YouTubers out there like Smart Home Solver and Paul Hibbert.
Take your time and enjoy the journey!
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I thought it was Home Despot, but Home Desperate works, too.
I thought it was Home Despot, but Home Desperate works, too.
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Since the primary reason I got smart switches was mostly for laziness (and partially for security reasons while not home), you want it to work. Which is why spent more with Caseta. Someone who wants a smart switch for the novelty could get away with a cheaper device. Pico is also nice if your homebuilder only wired one switch for lights in a bigger room, just plop it wherever you feel like having a physical switch.